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	<title>Comments on: Organized Riots Against Health Care Reform</title>
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		<title>By: wcunion</title>
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		<description>Joe,

Generally a very nice post - I agree with much more of it than I expected to. I found the final minute or so of Maddow&#039;s clip to be surprisingly persuasive (though I wish pundits everywhere would tone down the Jon Stewart smug factor - it&#039;s been old for a while). I&#039;m not fully convinced that there is a big, bright line between &quot;manipulation&quot; and &quot;community organizing,&quot; but I do agree that we are seeing people who are not fully informed acting hastily - though the same can surely be said of Congress.

I must comment, though, on one point with which I take some exception. Yes, a few people have used Nazi rhetoric and symbols to make a point. I believe such rhetoric is way overblown (and likely to backfire), but it&#039;s only offensive if the protestors are making pro-Nazi arguments. Consider, it would not be offensive if people at a Civil Rights march held anti-KKK signs. Pelosi&#039;s point implies that the &quot;whiff of fascism is in the air&quot; - and that protestors are invoking the symbols for ominous reasons. Quite the opposite, I think.

Incidentally, I would be remiss if I did not add that I don&#039;t remember any mainstream journalists expressing outrage when anti-war protestors stayed up all night making up &quot;hilarious&quot; signs about BushHitler. 

Anyway, I continue to enjoy the blog very much.</description>
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<p>Generally a very nice post &#8211; I agree with much more of it than I expected to. I found the final minute or so of Maddow&#8217;s clip to be surprisingly persuasive (though I wish pundits everywhere would tone down the Jon Stewart smug factor &#8211; it&#8217;s been old for a while). I&#8217;m not fully convinced that there is a big, bright line between &#8220;manipulation&#8221; and &#8220;community organizing,&#8221; but I do agree that we are seeing people who are not fully informed acting hastily &#8211; though the same can surely be said of Congress.</p>
<p>I must comment, though, on one point with which I take some exception. Yes, a few people have used Nazi rhetoric and symbols to make a point. I believe such rhetoric is way overblown (and likely to backfire), but it&#8217;s only offensive if the protestors are making pro-Nazi arguments. Consider, it would not be offensive if people at a Civil Rights march held anti-KKK signs. Pelosi&#8217;s point implies that the &#8220;whiff of fascism is in the air&#8221; &#8211; and that protestors are invoking the symbols for ominous reasons. Quite the opposite, I think.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I would be remiss if I did not add that I don&#8217;t remember any mainstream journalists expressing outrage when anti-war protestors stayed up all night making up &#8220;hilarious&#8221; signs about BushHitler. </p>
<p>Anyway, I continue to enjoy the blog very much.</p>
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